A Clarification and Addendum on the Census
In response to my previous post on the term "Negro" in the census form:
Joseph Copsey says:
January 8, 2010 at 10:57 am (Edit)The term “Negro†is not being “resurrected.†It has been on every census questionnaire since 1950, the first year that residents could self-identify their race. The term was there in 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000. Research shows 56,000 people wrote in “Negro†on their forms in 2000 even though “Black, African Am., or Negro†was already a choice on the form. The research also showed that 75 percent of people who did write in “Negro†were under the age of 65. Survey statisticians continually test survey questions. It is likely that Negro will disappear on the forms, but right now, there is a segment of the population that still identifies itself as “Negro.â€
I'll concede the point. I believe it's true. But I wasn't stating that the term had been resurrected from census forms, but from public usage. It may be that including it prevents having to read and record a lot of write ins, but even if it is a vestigial social artefact, that doesn't dissuade me from my point, that the fact that the category resonates in Spanish is likely to drive up its usage.
Yes, yes, I know that there are statisticians who analyze the design, but you have to understand---and since your IP address is traceable to the Census Bureau, I think it's important that you do understand---that Obama's transferral of control of the bureau out of Commerce, read against his record of ideological appointments, makes us very skeptical of the design of the form. It is certain, at any rate, that the dimensions of this behemoth far exceed anything contemplated in the original idea of a census, and I think it more than likely that whatever information that is derived will be used to further identity political ends. We've already seen the extraordinary over-reach of the EPA, and we've already witnessed how the Census Bureau had to end its association with ACORN, which masquerades as a non-aligned entity in some of its organizational manifestations.
I am sorry if that seems insensitive, but there it is. You may recall that in the run-up to "health care reform," the administration was perfectly happy to let the media bruit it far and wide that 45 million Americans were without health insurance, until Obama actually had to give a speech on the matter, and suddenly the number became 30 million. That's because it would have been conspicuous in a matter so costly to count non-citizens. Nevertheless, we now understand that although non-citizens are left out of the bill as it now stands, "immigration reform" and a general amnesty are meant to be the solution to this little problem of terminology.
The census itself, well . . . is it going to count non-citizens? Because that's nowhere contemplated in the Constitution, is it? And if it does, to what end does it? Certainly not to be checked against Social Security.
I honor your defense of your undertaking, and I'm glad that you, at any rate, believe in its integrity. I wish I could say the same from where I sit.





January 8th, 2010 - 12:54
In the original post, in response to Mr. Copsey, I said the following (which I am copying here as the conversation may move to here):
“Thanks.
If the form had the option “Black, African Am or Negroâ€, and 56,000 people wrote in “Negroâ€, what percentage of the population self-identifies as Negro? Hint: You can’t determine it from that, because you don’t know how many who chose “Black, African Am or Negro†did so because they self-identify as Negro. Also, why would someone write in Negro when that was already an available answer, as part of the “Black, …â€? I don’t know, and I would guess that you don’t know why either, but one answer is a Politcial statement. There are other, valid reasons, too. All we know is that less than 1/2 of 1% (56,000 of approx 150 Million) choose to self-identify as Negro only. Drawing any conclusions with any certainty is impossible.”
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January 8th, 2010 - 13:17
Sarah Palin is ditching CPAC because the Birchers are a co-host. Smart move, dumb? My guess it is the smart move, given that the Birchers, while I sympathize with their little “l” libertarianism, are a bit odd. Plus, it is probably wise for a conservative to quietly ask themselves before an important decision: “What would WFB, Jr. do?” (Christopher Buckley might consider that). I mean, I may have disagreements about Ike, but I do not think he was a Communist.
Meanwhile the racism is so tasty!
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January 8th, 2010 - 16:52
Not sure what the utility is with the term “African American.” I’ve heard people unthikingly use it to describe anyone of African decent, including people who are from Europe or Africa itself.
Further, I’ve got a couple of friends from South Africa who are whiter than I am. They’re actually African-American, but nobody in their right mind would say so.
“Black” and “negro” can both be used to describe someone of black African ancestry, as opposed to the Arabs and Europeans who also have lived there for centuries.
I guess people think that the more syllables a term has, the more sensitive it is.
I don’t remember “negro” accumulating negative connotations, but then, I was young at the time. Same for “black.” Not sure why the terms would be negative. On account of there being nothing wrong with having African ancestry.
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