POWIP Piece of Work In Progress – Former Abode of Dan Collins

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Negro-Gate

A couple of days ago, I tried to come to grips with why the census would retain a term liable to cause more offense than the good it would do. Caution: this video clip contains raaaaacism:

(via @stoo11 on Twitter)

Serendipitiously, I also posted a macaca moment that anticipated the revelations contained in the book, Game Change, regarding Clinton and Reid, not to mention John Edwards, who apparently freaked out on a campaign staffer for not having confronted him about screwing Rielle Hunter.

After swearing in Owens for NY-23 before the vote tally was certified, so that he could pitch in on health care (in violation of his promises on the campaign trail), the Democrats seem not at all concerned with suggestions that should Scott Brown win, his seating will be delayed. Not only that, but there is a movement afoot to scrap the filibuster, even as they plot to cede legislative powers to unelected appointee Sebelius.

I don't think I need remind you that the Massachusetts legislature changed the rules against a governor's appointment of a temporary replacement in Congress, promulgated at Ted Kennedy's request under Romney, in order to permit it again upon Kennedy's death, under a Democrat. Nor should I need to remind you of Burriss' appointment in Illinois.

In A Man for All Seasons, there is the following exchange:

Sir Thomas Moore: The law, Roper, the law. I know what’s legal not what’s right. And I’ll stick to what’s legal.

Roper: So now you’d give the Devil benefit of law!

More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you – where would you hide, Roper, the laws being all flat? This country’s planted thick with laws from coast to coast – Man’s law, not God’s – and if you cut them down – and you’re just the man to do it – d’you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then?

Whatever form an American fascism might take, it will be myopic men such as these will make it possible.

Patterico has thoughts on Harry's hypocrisy.

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  1. Sara (Pal2Pal)
    January 10th, 2010 - 13:01

    Why is everyone zeroing in on the word Negro and not on what I find to be the offensive part … “‘with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

    Anyone close to my age is sure to remember how we were taught to use the correct term to describe those of African descent as Negro or Negroid. Those of the Negro race are Negroids, to use any other term, we were taught, was offensive, slang, insulting, low life, classless, etc, etc. Our housekeeper, a proud and caring woman, sat me down when I was 8 and told me, after overhearing me tell a friend that Carrie was colored (the most common term in usage then), that Carrie wasn’t “colored.” She made it clear to me in no uncertain terms that she was a Negress, of the Negro race and proud of it.

    So, I think all this brouhaha over the word Negro in Reid’s remarks is over the top. The real terrible part, the part that indicates that Reid thinks Obama is nothing but a big phony, is the 2nd part, “…. Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” In other words, he could turn it on and off to suit his audience and make himself out to have “ghetto cred” he has never had. It used to be called “jive talk,” then it was “black power,” then it was Ebonics, then it devolved into “gangsta rap.” Would there be such an outcry of outrage if Reid had said, “he spoke with no gangsta rap dialect or no jive talk dialect” … unless he wanted to have one?

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  2. Sarahw
    January 10th, 2010 - 14:40

    Now would be a good time to point out the reality that Obama did turn his dialect, whatever you want to call that dialect, on and off. Why Obama felt the need to do that is still something that needs to be explained to me.

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  3. Honky White
    January 10th, 2010 - 14:54

    Hi, Sara (pal2pal), remember me? I’m thor. I’ll take your first sentence as an example. Celine would have sincerely hated you. You’re no Celine. There’s no grammatical need to use a ellipsis in your first sentence nor are you entitled to its usage by merit of literary style. Do you not know proper grammar? What were you taught instead of proper grammar, dumwhiteybonics?

    Just so we’re straight on your fronting your mad sklllz versus the lyrically truncated jive talkers.

    That’s a cute story of your past Negress, but the “real terrible part” is your interpretation of certain of Reid’s words, “unless he wanted to have one,” as Reid declaratively implying President Obama never had “ghetto cred,” quoting your words.

    Starting when you were eight until now, do/did you think it a Negress’s natural position in life to wash your stained panties while correcting your dated word usage, Colored or Negress? That’s how I liberally interpreted your crazed anecdote-laden interpretation of Reid’s words. See how that works?

    For eight years President Obama served as state senator from Illinois’s 13th District, that’d be the South side of Chicago which, more often than not, is referred to as a ghetto, you pampered imbecile. Therefor if those ghetto people thinketh Obama ghetto-enough, maybe you should as well. Or is it that in your world of Coloreds and Negresses that you think it impossible that one from the lowly ghetto could be your better in English speech and grammar thus Obama, in your mind, is simply not from the ghetto even if reality dictates he is?

    BTW, “black power” (again, quoting you) was never a syntactical lingua, it was a narrative. And from the black ghetto rose black power, and his name is Obama, the most powerful man in the free world, in no uncertain terms.

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    • Bob Reed
      January 11th, 2010 - 01:06

      Yeah well notwithstanding your dismissive tone and argument, if you’ll recall, one of Obama’s problems early in his career was that he was percieved as not being “black” enough.

      That’s why he started hangin’ wif dat racist Wright and his comrade in hate Louis Farrakhan. In fact, nationally he was still having trouble getting black votes, even in the south, until he dreamed up the mnasterful stroke to play the race card on Bill and Hill during the South Carolina promary. A gambit he, an most Obamists like yourself, engage in arbitrarily and capriciously; a tactic which will ultimately devalue the overall strategem.

      All of you race card players are hypocrites and have been unmasked by Dingy Harry’s latest embarrassment. The Hypocrite-in-chief called for Lott’s head on a platter when he made a benign salutation at Strom Thurmands birthday party; but when Harry speaks inconvenient truths Obama as well as the usual race-baiters like Sharpton circle the wagons…

      The sad fact is that Obama does take on phony speech affectations, like Al Gore does with his Jesse Jackson impersonation; he’s black when it’s convenient. And that is part of the underlying truth that unites all of the entities in the shadowy universe of lies surrounding Obama’s past.

      None of it can see the light of day, because as long as it doesn’t he’s a liberal Democrat’s; a black man without a paper trail he needs to justify, who, at the slightest glimmer of political struggle, or even uncomfortable criticism, can fend off his opponents by a toss of the race card; or have his henchmen do it in his stead…

      And here’s a clue, the hypocrite-in-chief is not as bright as you tried to cement as the official Obama public meta-narrative. He’s a friggin’ gaffe machine, who plays fast and loose with historical fact and citation; he’s like you thor-a man who’s battleship mouth continually get’s his rowboat ass into jams.

      Up until now tha media has been carrying his water. But the effects of the BVD bomber dither-show, and subsequent solo of “I blame Booooooooosh!”, combined with the blatant lie about raising taxes and broadcasting the Obamacare conference bill crafting on CSPAN, has caused some cracks in the dykes, and it won’t be long before the flood of nutroot outrage flows when the turn on their demi-god…

      I mean, the NY TImes has a story this weekend that essentially said he was a wimp like Carter…

      It’s only a matter of time; be ready to defend your boy often in the coming year.

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      • the S. S. Condoleezza Rice
        January 11th, 2010 - 05:31

        My “boy?”

        RACCIIIISSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT!

        While you were away Dan joined the Vermont Aryan-wing of the neo-confederacy. Who forgot to tell Collins that they not only hate Blacks and Jews but Papists too? Scare Pee, I believe that was your job.

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  4. Honky White
    January 10th, 2010 - 15:07

    The video you posted, Dan, is racist propaganda.

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  6. Dan Collins
    January 10th, 2010 - 15:09

    Yeah. Nothing in it was true.

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 15:23

      Carefully selecting your facts is pretty much the norm when one desires to construct a false narrative, no?

      Here’s what’s true, the Republican and Democrat parties have both adapted changing ideologies. Bitterly clinging to a ever-contextualized word, Republican in this case, is a device of selective simplification below a man of Dartmouth.

      Nice try, General Lee. HAhaha, pppp.

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  7. Charles Johnson
    January 10th, 2010 - 15:14

    Harry Reid is no more a racist than I am? WTF?

    Now one of my sycophantic commentators wrote this:

    I’m not sure it was a racist statement that he made.

    Perhaps we should get Mitt or Rudy or Newt or Rush or Glenn to say the exact same thing and see what the reaction is before we determine whether it was a racist statement.

    Then, we would truly know.

    This is getting me confused and upset. Robert Stacy McCain is a racist, but that means Harry Reid is a racist, and Obama is defending Harry Reid. I think my head is going to explode. When I get upset I want to eat. Now excuse me, I am heading back up to Tahoe for a little rest and relaxation. Boy am I hungry! I am going to take a big dump too, while I am at it.

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 15:39

      Hi Joe, still fixated on Charles Johnson’s boner, I see.

      All I know of Robert Stacy McCain is that what he once wrote was racist. I like to exaggerate him as a foul fuckin’ racist swine because that’s the kkkool thing to do in his little hyper-politicized world. He once – hahahhaaha! – made a living assigning exaggerated tags to his political opposites, but he’ya seem likey not to wear’n dis turd pie on’m he necktie.

      Goose/Gander good for thing, don’t you know.

      RSM is free to speak his mind. I’m free to respond and to him and to do so in-kind if that’s my wish. Ain’t America great, little pink houses…

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  8. Charles Johnson
    January 10th, 2010 - 15:18

    I am not husky, I am big boned.

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  10. Sara (Pal2Pal)
    January 10th, 2010 - 16:04

    You know, Thor, you know nothing about me or my background. And you know nothing about Carrie. Carrie Daniels was her name. An exceptionally talented woman with more love in her than anyone I’ve known since. She was more my mother than my own career-oriented Mother and I loved her dearly. And during my elementary school years, I spent as much time at her home with her and her wonderful husband, Moses, as I did at my own. And when I started high school and her daily services as combo housekeeper/babysitter were no longer needed, my Mother helped her attain her lifelong dream of becoming a professional photographer with her own studio, where she had a successful career until she retired 30 years later and moved to Florida. And speaking of my Mother, with Carrie, they went together to march in Selma and Birmingham. They were invited guests of Coretta Scott King in Washington when MLK gave his I’ve Got a Dream speech. My Mother, who years before it became fashionable, was an outspoken voice for civil rights, starting the first G.S. troop for young black girls in 1948. And it was my Mother who convinced Carrie that her talents would be better used as Camp Director at the GS camp, than camp cook.

    I’m sorry you are so offended by what we were taught as proper usage when I was a pre-teen, or by the preference of a wonderful woman, but that is the way it was. In the 1950s, the races weren’t divided up by special interest groups or phony p.c. designations, there were three … Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid.

    Oh, and Thor, my adopted son, hates being called African-American. He considers it an insult since his American ancestry dates back to pre-Revolution days and includes heroes in all walks of life over the centuries and never a slave among them that he could find in his research. He’ll be the first to tell you that he is a proud American, period!

    And from the black ghetto rose black power, and his name is Obama

    Uh huh. The ghetto of private schools and Ivy League universities. Real street cred there.

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 17:19

      Ohnoes, from casting bent words from Sen. Harry Reid’s mouth to self-anointing herself as heroine – how very utterly predictable, lady!

      Fuck you, if he’s an African-American and can’t figure out that the extreme majority of African-American were slaves in those pre-revolution days then he’s autistic as well as African-American, if I may be so blunt!

      America is a racist county defined by its racist past. Get over it, heroine of Africa!

      Maybe if we moved the discussion from what the hell has America learned from its racist past versus the denial of its racist past we’d be better served.

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      • Bob Reed
        January 11th, 2010 - 01:20

        “America is a racist county defined by its racist past.”

        You are sooooo living in the past; get over it, and get over your over-inflated sense of the validity and value of your opinions.

        If you’re life has induced the typical white guilt, so that you feel you must repeat this pablum whenever possible, then do so sotto voce and leave it at that. It doesn’t make you any “edgier”, “enlightened”, or KKKool; it makes you sound like an imbicile. Especially in view of Obama’s election; not to mention the ability of professional race-peddling shakedown artists to make a cottage industry off of exploiting that white guilt.

        Get this, whitey-you’re a white boy who’s daddy is rich. No matter how many times you buy a round for the brothers at the bar, or if you wring your hands chapped over the “sins of the past”, you’ll still be a white boy who’s daddy is rich; and not some edgey, revolutionary warrior-poet like you tell all of the pierced-nez baristas when you want to be somebody.

        Street-cred is an account that all your money won’t buy.

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        • the S. S. Condoleezza Rice
          January 11th, 2010 - 04:57

          You misspelled imbecile, Dr. Freud.

          I never actually considered being non-racist to be all that edgy. It’s simply how I was raised.

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  11. K
    January 10th, 2010 - 16:09

    As the vid presents, the reconstruction era KKK was not Republican. But it also only lasted about 5 years before it was disbanded. The re-invented KKK of the 1920s, which was emulating the Masons as a fraternal organization had millions of members and elected senators before it got the rep as a terrorist group. That version featured support for both selected Republicans and Democrats. The main criteria for support at that time being who was not catering to immigrant Catholics.

    The re-reinvention of the KKK in the 60s also tended to be non partison as far as parties were concerned, but in the end it was more oriented towards the Republicans as represented by David Duke et al.

    ref:”Hooded Americanism” by David Chalmers

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  12. Sara (Pal2Pal)
    January 10th, 2010 - 16:14

    “The revelation of Senator Harry Reid’s comments referencing “negro talk” is just indicative of the true sentiment elitist liberals, and indeed the Democratic party, have toward black Americans. The history of the Democrat party is one of slavery, secession, segregation, and now socialism. It is this new aged socialism born from the Johnson Great Society programs that have castigated blacks as victims needing government dependency. One need only to look upon the city of Detroit to ascertain what liberal social welfare policies have produced for the inner city…..the new plantation for black Americans.

    “The Ku Klux Klan was birthed by the Democrats as a terrorist wing to intimidate blacks, and whites, who sought to promote economic and education independence and social justice for blacks. What was once overt has just morphed and become covert, yet still exists..

    [...]

    “Senator Harry Reid’s comments are disgusting, despicable, and unacceptable. They are representative of how intellectual elite liberals do indeed speak of black Americans in their closed private spaces. Next week I have been invited to NYC to address the Hudson Institute, a conservative organization, conference on “Reclaiming American Liberty”. That invite came to me because I took advantage of the opportunities this great Republic offered. I followed the guidance of my parents and set my standards above all others around me. I speak well and have impeccable communicative skills because my Father and Mother prioritized that quality.

    “I shiver to think what my future could have been if I listened to the insidious rhetoric of charlatans such as Harry Reid, and the ambassadors of affirmative action who reside in the Congressional Black Caucus.

    “Sure, the “stuck on stupid” blacks are going to address me in derogatory names, but I possess something which they lack; Honor, Integrity, and Character. To them I say, continue to be slaves to the liberals for your vote…….and in a year you will be calling me Congressman West.”

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 16:55

      Whatevers, you sneering, elitist illiterate hick.

      And racist bitch.

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      • Lazarus Long
        January 10th, 2010 - 21:47

        Seek professional help, whore.

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      • Bob Reed
        January 11th, 2010 - 01:24

        Col West is impressive; you’re a racist of you don’t agree with him.

        I mean, that’s how it works for Obama, right?

        One important difference though, Col West speaks truth, bereft of weasel-words, and clauses designed to yield maximum plausible deniability. Oh, and he doesn’t lie either, like Obama…

        Here’s an idea, he’s in Florida too. Why don’t you go tell him his military pension is wingnut welfare…

        You’re not man enough

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  13. Dan Collins
    January 10th, 2010 - 16:14

    Right, but who throws the kkkaka at whom, these days?

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 17:06

      I do at you, and rightfully so.

      Is that all you’re left to hide behind, the tortured definitions of who was a Republican or Democrat from generations past? That’s nothing short of stupid.

      Face reality, whitey!

      It was the universality-trumpeting Russian Marxists who defeated Hitler. It was the universality-trumpeting Marxist Sandinistas who defeated Samoza. It was the proud liberation theologian Archbishop Romero who sent General Romero into exile in El Salvador.

      Thomas Jefferson is turning over in his grave because or you, patriot.

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      • Dan Collins
        January 10th, 2010 - 17:27

        Benjamin Franklin’s puking at people like you. You bring nothing at all but grievance. Your intolerance and vomitous, filthy invective is one note, Charlie. Your behavior is abusive, your lack of civility is slatternly. You seem to imagine yourself a hero for your continuous queefing.

        Go.

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        • Honky White
          January 10th, 2010 - 18:01

          Oh, but yes, my invective is sharp as it is harsh. It’s designed to be. Look at the repulsive flying spitballs I so often dodge! Every good Francophile knows the value of a savage sneering rhetorical defense.

          I’m not dry-humping right-wing propagandists of the likes of Andrew Breitbart in an effort to line my pocket so perhaps my independence comes off a wee strident, hahaha, but filthy queefing-hero, I think not.

          BTW, I prefer the gap’s vulgar wind to queef, indulge me, else you’re just as much the vulgarian as I.

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      • Lazarus Long
        January 10th, 2010 - 21:48

        “It was the universality-trumpeting Russian Marxists who defeated Hitler.”

        Really.

        A licencesed professional can help you with your condition.

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 17:31

      Mmmm, hmmm, hmmm!

      What do you have to say for yourself? Is it not the very principle of universality that we share with the Marxists and the liberation theologists that is proudly symbolized in America’s Bill of Rights and its respect of Civil Rights!

      Then why all the cheap name-calling? Hug a Marxist! Wet kiss a Socialist! Hold hands with a black liberation theologian! We are One, and we get to carry each other! As Bono, a once economically disadvantaged lad from Dublin, sings it.

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    • Frank G
      January 10th, 2010 - 18:02

      cool. I’ve seen enough of you in one thread to skip over anything you post in the future. I love recycling garbage

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  14. BabbaZee
    January 10th, 2010 - 16:27

    What makes me laugh about all of this crap is that everyone seems to neglect to recall that this man is also as white as he is black. Obamanable is a typical white person, then? lol! How is it that his BLACK is all encompassing? I could give a shit what “race” he is or what race he chooses to project himself as – (RACE BTW is a philosophical designation, NOT a “scientific one, originated by KANT – google KANT and RACE – and you thought he was the father of the enlightenment – turns out he was the father of the enwhitenment! lol)

    Anyway The Obamanable Snowjobman is the ultimate Gramscian Whore of opportunity – take the personal and make it political, use it as a club to beat your enemies with – he is and will be what ever the moment seems to calls for – white dreaded negorid christian muslim black liberation theologist Kenyan Hawaiian Indonesian American blah – whatever – he does not care – so long as it advances HIM – what bothers me about Obamanable’s color has zero to do with his face or his choice it is that is ideologically RED.

    All this YOU ARE A RACIST shit is conjured up to keep us arguing amongst ourselves and distracted from THAT color.

    Bah to it all.

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    • Honky White
      January 10th, 2010 - 16:53

      Bah-ah-ahaha, ever since your Kantian consciousness of your white privilege became discounted by Obama’s mere half-whiteness you r-wingies have become nothing short of screaming lie-rattling toddlers. Bahaahaha at your bawaawaawaah.

      Stay tortured.

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      • Dan Collins
        January 10th, 2010 - 17:01

        You liberal cunts think that anger is your birthright. Fuck you. It demonstrates nothing but the squalor of your souls. It is nothing but the apologetics of ugliness.

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        • Honky White
          January 10th, 2010 - 17:08

          Grrr is not a sound exclusive to your vagina!

          HAhaha.

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        • Charles Johnson
          January 10th, 2010 - 18:13

          thor, just no fisting okay! I am definitely not into that, except amongst mutually consenting adults who have a safe word, and I will sue anyone who suggests I am.

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  15. BabbaZee
    January 10th, 2010 - 17:07

    Amen to that
    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

    /waves hand

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  16. BabbaZee
    January 10th, 2010 - 17:14

    My Amen to that up there was to Dan – seems these boxes rearrange stuff when people reply, or, I did it wrong, I never did post on this type of thread before.

    In any event, REPENT.

    http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Repent+Walpurgis/4617561

    and of course, bah

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  17. Charles Johnson
    January 10th, 2010 - 17:20

    Dan, you might want to consider banning more often. It works for me.

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  18. Pontius was a Republican
    January 10th, 2010 - 18:37

    I think Dan Collins is a moderate liberal trapped in a right-wing world he never made.

    Haha.

    If you believe that we’re all born equal in the eyes of God, Dan, then is it not the God-worshipping man’s virtuous duty to attempt his equality on earth?

    It’s OK. They’ll call you a Marxist, a dirty Socialist, a touter of liberation theology, but truth washes all their name calling away. Truth instills courage. Rise up! Exalt his name!

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  19. Dan Collins
    January 10th, 2010 - 19:07

    Huh. You’ve got that exactly backwards, Thor. Pontius abandoned Christ because he said his kingdom was not of this world. I haven’t seen much behavior in these comments that marks you as someone who’s particularly concerned with the well being of others. You’re not Jeremiah; you’re not even a scold; you are vicious, plain and simple, and I’m sick of it.

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    • the S. S. Condoleezza Rice
      January 11th, 2010 - 00:11

      You’re speaking for Pontius now? Bloody 2000-year hell, help us all.

      Step it up.

      Here’s your competition.

      When you hit, make it your own uppercut, not a freakin’ lazy link, player.

      Mark went to Cal-Berkeley, he’s not even a Dartmouth man. I mean, if you want to step in the ring, get fuckin’ real. One story of your own making, outside of mushrooms, NTTAWWT.

      Daily.

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  20. Sara (Pal2Pal)
    January 10th, 2010 - 19:26

    sneering, elitist illiterate hick.

    And racist bitch.

    And racist bitch.

    Hey Honky Thor, if you are going to call me a BITCH, then show some manners and spell it in all caps.

    I love that by posting Col. West’s remarks regarding Reid’s remarks, I become a “sneering, elitist illiterate hick” and a racist.

    In case you haven’t noticed, Col. West is African American/black/Negro or whatever new term liberal crybabies come up with next to make men and women of color feel inferior.

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    • the S. S. Condoleezza Rice
      January 11th, 2010 - 00:37

      You’re not a sneering, elitist illiterate hick by any means other than your own tenor, Gram’ma’ma.

      Dan’s right, I’m one vulgar-barbed motherfucker. Try and keep up with me and you’ll most likely come across as circus tamed and scarred. I’ve read too much French literature, ya see.

      Say “hello” to your neighbors and always question your own behavior. J. Mellencamp

      Hehehee.

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  21. Sara (Pal2Pal)
    January 10th, 2010 - 19:31

    Dan:

    He is a typical lefty who projects his own disdain toward minorities on others in order to feel good about himself and to rationalize his own disgusting racism, which comes thru loud and clear.

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  22. serr8d
    January 10th, 2010 - 19:31

    Dan! Just stopped by to apologize for the way the Arizona Cardinals eliminated the Rodgers Pac.

    Better luck next year~!

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  23. the S. S. Condoleezza Rice
    January 10th, 2010 - 20:04

    That video you posted with its confederate flag standing tall in the background is racist crap. See there, I can be direct as well as viscous. Do I stand alone on POWIP in declaring it such? Yes I do, proudly, plain and simple.

    Am I buggin’ the smug neo-confederate elitists? As it should be, then.

    No apologies.

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    • the S. S. Condoleezza Rice
      January 11th, 2010 - 05:35

      Hey wait, I apologize.

      All those white faces and all that gray hair, that’s not a KKK march up there, it’s the Fux Network tea-baggers marching on the White House.

      My bad.

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  24. Enoch_Root
    January 11th, 2010 - 06:20

    Tohr – pathetic is what you are. Stand next to yourself once. I hereby release you of your white guilt. It i sno way to go through life if’n you’re over 22 years of age.

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  25. SDN
    January 11th, 2010 - 16:14

    Why waste time with this oxygen thief? Even as a cat toy he palls quickly. Until there’s a permanent way to get rid of him, just trollhammer his ass.

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